The Thrill of the Chase- A part of a video game?

Is The Thrill of the chase part of a video game ?

The Thrill of The Chase is either a Calling or an Omen…

So last night I lit off Steam and seen a friend playing Dying Light. He is just starting with “The Following” campaign and I decided to join his game, offer some tool of the trade, suggestions and answer any questions he may have.

We’re finishing up our third quest and he goes back to the farm house area to speak with an elder. I comically jump on the back of the farm hand and then the friend turns in his quest and grabs another. This small cut scene starts…

Is The Thrill of the chase part of a video game ?
Is The Thrill of the chase part of a video game ?

My eyes caught the pop up box to the middle right almost immediately and I snapped a screenshot. All I could do is simply shake my head and smile. The quest in this video game is some what like Forrest Fenn’s The Thrill of the Chase. You have to go find a cache of weapons which may aid in the game.

Sure, The Thrill of the Chase can be applied to many facets in life, it is all about how you label something. You name it something that is “appropriate” for your mindset. Then you can focus on that quest and probably have a successful ending.

I have a friend down south of my location and I shared this photo with her. All she could say is “WOW !” I am trying to get her to become a search partner, if anything, just the armchair type. For those that I appreciate and elect, I am one that does not mind sharing some of the spoils that I have, and may have in the near future.

So this is just another way for some unknown force to put me back on the tracks and start to focus on my search area once again. I want to narrow down this location a little more before the Fall of 2020 so I have less distractions when I am boots on the ground.

Just a wild encounter that I thought I would share with the general crowd who surf here.

The Thrill of the chase – The Blaze is a Sign?

Signs, if positioned correctly are called “blazes”

Here comes the holiday season, and in my opinion, there isn’t a better way to curl up to some sort of knowledge after a good meal or dessert. So, I have been digging (no pun intended) for information that might help. I don’t give you potential “iffy” solves or any of that. I try to present references that may make your day a bit brighter.

I was on my favorite search engine. I decided to search for an “official” blaze. I ended up getting a pretty interesting list of items to look through. One of them was this:

The orginal link is:

Or you can simply download it from here:

This is a small chapter about signs in general and how they should be displayed in the wild. This is a small chapter and starts on page 57 and end on page 70.

Page 62 grabbed my interest right away, as it seems to offer a trail which is a blaze in itself. Hey, Forrest Fenn said it wasn’t in “close proximity” to a human trail and then stated does he need to carry a caliper… Well, that could very well mean it’s near a trail but not too far.

For those that don’t care to download the reference and prefer to read it online, here are a few tidbits from page 62:

Reassurance Markers/Blazes

Reassurance markers are the paint or nail-on “blazes” that mark the trail.

Blazes are placed on trees or posts, slightly above eye level so that hikers can see them easily when traveling in either direction.

In areas where the trail receives winter use, blazes are placed higher so they are visible above the snow. Blazes should be within “line of sight”—when standing at a blaze marker, the hiker should be able to see the next one. Blazes should be placed on trees that “strike the eye.” One well placed blaze is better than several that are poorly placed.

Both paint and nail-on type blazes should be 2″× 6″ vertical rectangles. The 2″× 6″ rectangular shape is large enough to be seen easily without being visually obtrusive and is the most universally accepted style of trail blazing.

Throughout the trail, the color of choice is medium blue

In non-forested areas, blazes should be placed on wooden or Carsonite posts 4 to 5 feet above the ground. Round posts are acceptable for blazes only. Treated 4″ × 4″ posts or Carsonite posts are required if emblems or other signs/decals are to be attached.

Directional Change Indicators
These are necessary in places that require extra hiker alertness (e.g., important turns, junctions with other trails, and other confusing locations). They should be used sparingly so that they do not become meaningless or visually obtrusive. They are unnecessary at gradual turns and well-defined trail locations such as switchbacks. A reassurance marker should be placed so that it can be seen from the direction indicator. Signing for hikers coming from either direction should be done.

The Thrill of the Chase: Skippy & the Pontoon plane

Pontoon boat next to a pier

What’s the real story behind the plane and Skippy?

On page 50 – also the page number where Skippy fades away at an age of 50, Forrest Fenn writes about the time Skippy, probably as a teenager, who borrows a plane and effortlessly glides that plane onto the waters of Hebgen Lake.

The problem seems to be that the plane was incapable of taking off when the altitude of Hebgen Lake was near 6,000 feet.

This has always perplexed me. I am sure planes can take off from this height. I know that automobiles may require a some tuning in order to run at peak performance when at higher altitudes. What about a plane?

Guessing the age of Skippy and the plane

If I had to guess the age of Skippy, if this fairy tale event did take place, Skippy would be between 16 and 18 years of age. That would make Forrest 14 to 16 years of age. That means the potential year this event might of happened is between 1944 and 1946. The plane was probably not even close to “new” so let’s say the aircraft was built in the early to mid 1930’s.

One would have to do some deep diving in order to guess where Skippy may have acquired this pontoon plane. It only makes sense that it would have come from an area that is heavily populated with lakes and there may or may not have been an airport in the general proximity or, at least a fuel pump probably on a pier that provides the right type of fuel for that type of aircraft. IF this plane came from Idaho, There are 119 public airports in Idaho… I do not know the number of airports for Idaho back in the mid 1940’s. Nor do I know the lakes that have fuel available for aircraft.

Why the plane Skippy tries to fly had no lift?

This is totally perplexing. I had to look up this kind of scenario and I found a website that offers some insight of what effects a plane can go through at higher altitudes.

So if I read this statement correctly…….

 A normally aspirated engine loses roughly 2 percent of its horsepower for each 1,000-foot increase in altitude.

So at 6,000 feet the airplane loses about 12% of its horsepower. Now this plane is not a tank, and the engine is relatively small but not THAT small. A twelve percent loss in horsepower is significant, but that means you’d have to use a longer runway. Now, with Hebgen Lake, Forrest Fenn writes the runway was close to 15 miles – plenty of distance to get the aircraft into the air.

Even if the engine was faltering and offered 75% of its horsepower, taking away 12% puts the percentage of horsepower close to 63%. I know you have to add in the plane weight, the fuel, the weight of the personnel and any personal belongings. But this thing should have had the ability to take off and have a decent chance at climbing altitude.

This scenario just seems off to me. So I went back to the site I referenced earlier. On one of the pages within The Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association, (a not-for-profit organization dedicated to general aviation, was incorporated on May 15, 1939.)

This reference article below may help digest the confusion

Find the subtitle called “on the ground“, and read the next to last paragraph. To me it sounds plausible that this plane was destined to fly – unless Skippy or Forrest (in his mind) did not want it to.


The AOPA Foundation seems to focused on training people to perform as pilots, so this seems to be an excellent reference to learn, scratch your head and wonder about The Thrill of the Chase and the chapter called “My brother being Skippy”.

Questions or comments? Leave them here or write me a note

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The Thrill of the Chase – TTotC – The word that is key

Can a simple word decipher Forrest Fenn’s poem?

Throughout the travels, blog posts, scrapbooks, videos and more, people are magnifying what Forrest Fenn has said – or has not said.

Some of the more important words?

Some of the phrases Forrest Fenn has said, in my opinion are pretty important. Here are several of them.

“Many are giving serious thought to the clues in my poem, but only a few are in tight focus with a word that is key. The treasure may be discovered sooner than I anticipated.”

In my opinion, this means people are visiting the area for a brief period of time. They look at this place and cannot comprehend that the location contains all of the clues. They become distracted. Why do I say that? Its because Forrest Fenn has basically said it in one form or another. See the next two statements by Forrest Fenn.

”  To an ant a mud puddle can be like an ocean .”

In my opinion, this is one of the more important statements Forrest Fenn has given. I think he is trying to tell people, if your standing at a particular area you think the treasure is, you need to focus on a smaller , tighter area. Typically people look outward to as far as the eyes can see and become instantly distracted.

“I cannot tell you how many searchers have identified the first clue correctly, but certainly more than several. I cannot imagine anyone finding the treasure without first identifying the starting point, although many seem to be preoccupied with later clues.”

The above paragraph in my opinion, seems odd. BUT, in I believe Forrest Fenn is TRYING to get people to THINK (differently). People are not taking the first clue in the context that Forrest Fenn is. Statements ( NOT CLUES) like this are being said to aid the searcher to think differently.

“There have been some who have been within 500 feet because they have told me where they have been. Others have figured the first two clues and went right past the treasure and didn’t know it.”

This is VERY subjective – It’s how you want to interpret what he is saying. The 500 feet may not be a single straight line, on the ground distance. What if it it was higher or lower in elevation ?

In a New Mexico True Story video, Fenn said, “If I were standing where the treasure chest is, I’d see trees, I’d see mountains, I’d see animals, I’d smell the wonderful smells of pine needles or pinion nuts, sagebrush, and I know the treasure chest is wet.” Later in the interview, Fenn candidly noted, “Well, you’ve asked me a lot of questions. Most of them I’ve answered, a few of them I haven’t, but I gotta tell you, there’s one thing I told you that I wish I had not.”

One thing that is NOT listed in the above paragraph is….. Water. People tend to say that Pinyon pine does not grow in Montana or Wyoming. Ummm I think it does.

 “What surprises me a little is that nobody to my knowledge has analyzed one important possibility related to the winning solve.”

Important Possibility? Doesn’t the word “possibility” inject doubt? I doubt I would move in confidence if I had to contemplate a “possibility”. What about a better word like “condition” or “circumstance” or “variable” or other positive but still subjective word ? I think I know what he is talking about . I cannot say much more without revealing my relatively small area I want to search IF they lay of the land is promising.

Within 200 feet of Forrest Fenn’s treasure?

IMO, I highly doubt anyone has been within 200 feet of the treasure. Here’s why.

In the very short video above, Forrest Fenn is talking with an interviewer and claims that through emails and photographs he could determine that people have been within 200 feet. He claims the same thing within the Moby Dickens interview as well.

In my opinion, this may be just hype. It may be an attempt to rekindle a treasure hunt that may be lacking searchers. Over the years people have claimed they “think” they know a person who was within 200 feet that went searching one time and quit. They think they were close.

In my opinion, as Forrest has said it himself – you’re not going to stumble upon the location of the treasure chest. That quote is HERE. So, how would a seacher(s) simply come within 200 feet of the treasure unless it is simply placed on the side of a road in a thicket some place. You’d have to know the general location. In my opinion, this general location where the people missed the treasure chest by 200 feet has to be in a popular well visited area, or the supposed “one way in” in order to get close to the search location.

200 feet from the treasure – is very subjective. Up? Down ?

Look at it this way. You could be standing a SAFE distance away from an overhang looking out over the beautiful countryside. Someone sends Forrest Fenn a photograph and general details on that area and then after a period of some time, Forrest Fenn says the tease that some one has been within 200 feet of the treasure chest.

Forrest Fenn knows that people should be out searching in groups of two or more. You can scan a lot more terrain this way . In my opinion, that’s one of the main reasons he suggests people to travel that way. It’s simply not going to be in a perfect place and easily seen. More people have a better chance to look and identify a pretty benign poem and decipher what they are seeing. Sure, more people mean its safer in numbers, especially if some one ends up finding the treasure and having to haul it out by themselves.

It could very well be below or above this so called location. It could be JUST on the other side of a passage that may require some one to go around to the other side, which may not be very accessible. The possibilities are endless as well as the possibilities of where this treasure location is.

Another subjective phrase on distance

BUT if Forrest Fenn said he parked his car, walked less than a few miles and placed the treasure there. You have to listen what he says – not what you want to hear. I could walk 100 feet, and that is clearly less than a few miles. The distance from the place that he parked and the treasure is not the issue. Finding the true area to concentrate the search at is key. Another part of that is you could recover the treasure within an afternoon. That time period is not very specific either an afternoon could simply mean anywhere from minutes or from noon until a minute before the beginning hour of evening. Again, Forrest Fenn’s answer is very subjective.

You see, if Forrest Fenn states that he walked less than a few miles total, that’s fine. But then the “not far but too far to walk” may not be a measure of distance, but simply in some other context. It could very well mean once you find “Begin it where warm waters halt”, you are within the 200 feet automatically and if you take more than a few steps away from that location, you’re off the beaten path. In my opinion, that has to mean that ALL of the clues are within the naked eye. There has to be several “markers” of some type within a relatively dense area that is safe to search.

In Forrest Fenn’s book, too far to walk, near where the map is there is a rather bold statement that says – Study the clues in the book and thread a tract through the wiles of nature and circumstance to the treasure. In my opinion, this means the search area should be rich (no pun intended) with things that are historical in nature. IF the Trail of Tears were in the Rocky Mountains, that may well have been a great story line since it can take many paths to get to the same result.

In my opinion, Forrest Fenn may be saying things in generic format and people are simply taking these out of context. I think Forrest Fenn has not given out any additional clues unless he was bound to do so. Everything else is very subjective and should be taken with many grains of salt. To take anything for granted will eventually make you start guessing. Guessing in this case will continue you to remain off the beaten path.