Borderlands 3 on Epic? Really?! Count me out.

Borderlands 3 on Epic ? A different launcher? BOOOOOO

Borderlands 3 on Epic? Really?! Count me out. I am not one to have a smearing of all these launchers on my system. I know better. This is ludicrous, but it is business. They stand to make more money, but I feel there won’t be as many followers from STEAM to Epic.  I already see the resistance in all of this, many a gamer I have talked to aren’t convinced that they will take the leap – that is, IF Bordelrlands 3 does go exclusively to Epic. Many will wait 6 months, which should be enough time to work bugs out of Borderlands 3, IF the questionable Epic customer support can handle it.

The words say it all. Exclusive or not, I am NOT going to Epic for BL3.
The words say it all. Exclusive or not, I am NOT going to Epic for BL3.

Borderlands 3 news on April 1st?

Sure it was April 1st, and it could be a thwap at an April Fools’ joke, but the writing is on the wall…. SURE, they may be able to make a slightly better profit on Epic, with  BL3 but will they have that many subscribers to make a difference?  I don’t believe so. With other games coming out such as Dying Light 2 and many others, I think some of the die hard STEAM gamers will pass on BL3 and find an alternate game to play. Switching to a cheaper provider is not always a smart move, ESPECIALLY, since its been so long since the last Borderlands. It’s a game – its not a Borderlands Passion for me. I am NOT sold on the potential characters we would get to play either. I was fond of the berserker and  the commando, and if they aren’t in there, I probably will not be either.  This is still early, and some better facts need to come out. All I can say is for me –  Borderlands 3 is on two strikes if what the big game mags have to offer is the truth. Doesn’t look good the the BL3 home team.

Epic Support? Ummmm , hardly? 

Take a look at what trust pilot says about the Epic support.  Form your own opinion.

If Epic tracked players in the past, will it continue ?

What do you think? Is all this “change” in BL3 worth the potential heart aches?! Why do these companies “THINK” <?> a change is for the better.

Shaking my head…….

A FREE version of Journal of a Trapper by Osborne Russell

A FREE version of Journal of a Trapper by Osborne Russell

I have found a good link to download a copy of the “Journal of a Trapper” by Osborne Russel. Its a live link from Google. It is the PDF version.

Journal of a Trapper

Nine years in the Rocky Mountains

1834 -1843

by Osborne Russell

Download the free version

Happy Reading !

Good Reference material for The Thrill of The Chase

Some unbiased The Thrill of the Chase references

In The Thrill of The Chase, there are a LOT of stumped and lost searchers who are poisoning the waters with their self-doubts, in hopes some one is willing to offer them some sort of magic or hope in a post about their blabberings.

Best case scenario is some one offers an opion which sparks a controversy and the mud pie flinging begins.

Stay away from the stumped, lost, sick, lame and crazies.

Here are a few what I believe are legitimate sources that may aid in your quest to find Forrest Fenn’s treasure called The Thrill of the Chase, aka Indulgence.

This page should point you to some PDF backups from Illinois Ghost. I suggest using the Backups ONLY, as he compiled them as unbiased as possible. I do not recommend watching his videos. since he is a searcher and is stumped like the rest.

No offense, I am just trying to make the new people learn the rules of reading the book and the poem over and coming up with their very own solves. It truly is the best way. Once you are stumped, THEN turn to the rest to see if they can bend the mind and place you on a proper track.

Illinois Ghost PDF’s are as follows

Scrapbooks 1-181 641 pages


Vignettes  118 pages


Quotes  273 Pages


Extra’s PDF

Illinois Ghost main web site

Illinois Ghost main website is here ( WARNING it can pull you off course)


At least one more area will be added soon of another searchers great attempt to categorize all of Forrest Fenn’s YouTube videos.

Thrill of the Chase and too far to walk are here

Forrest Fenn book The Thrill of the chase

An Update on The Thrill of the Chase and too far to walk memoir order.

It’s the Wednesday before the Superbowl. I call the Collected Works Bookstore and ask to be transferred to the shipping department. I nice young lady answers the phone and she assists me with my questions. “Hummm this is a big order, I think I have enough books in stock now to get this out. How’s tommorrow sound?” . Thursday afternoon, as promised I get the notification that the order has been updated. I get two tracking numbers for the seven books I ordered. After 9am on Friday morning, I check to see the status of the order via the shipping carrier. It was to be delivered by the end of the day.

The boxes had arrived when I was away and they were patiently awaiting my return. I brought them into the house and took the first copy of The Thrill of the Chase down to my office.

The book is nice and tall, about an inch taller than a typical 8×11 printer paper. I began reading the dust cover jacket front and back. I opened up the book and started looking for anything that instantly caught my eye.

Then, I remember the wise Forrest Fenn saying in an interview, ( I’m paraphrasing – but this is close) “You know what, you have that book there right in front of you, let me tell you how to do it. First read my book in the normal manner. Then, read the poem over and over, six, eight, ten times. Then read my book a second time, this time looking for hints sprinkled in the book that can be used to decipher the meaning of the clues. Anyone can find the treasure using the poem, reading the book and using a good map. All you need to do is read, think – and analyze the information. You can find the treasure chest.”

As fast as I picked the book up, I put it down. I moaned and told myself, today was Friday and I was on a mission to get things in order prior to the weekend. I needed to run a half dozen errands and then, as a reward, I could spend as much time as I wanted after that to read The Thrill of the Chase.

After the myriad of tasks were complete, I walk down to the office once again and I pick this semi hefty book up. It balanced well in my hand. When I handle books I tend to do gingerly at first, trying to save the books pages and bindings. I took the dust cover off The Thrill of the Chase and placed it off to the side to keep that as pristine a shape as I could. I carefully opened up the memoir and my eyes darted from page to page. I had to squelch my inner desire to instantly go into the analytical phase and instantly start trying to decipher everything I saw.

Once I started reading a chapter of Forrest Fenn’s life, the impulse to do analysis first faded. I noticed that though there appeared to be a dedent amount of pages, the memoir has plenty of scrapbook type photos and the base font used in the book was quite big. I paused for a second and thought, if this was without the beautiful memories inside, and only included Fenn’s words, this book itself may only be seventy or so pages long.

My eyes darted towards the clock and took note of the time. It was close to 9pm and Friday had become a long day. I quickly told myself that I did not have much plans on Friday night nor Saturday so I should be able to read most of The Thrill of the Chase this weekend.  I took focus back to the book and  continued to read. I flipped a page and noticed the weight of the book adjusting. I looked up to the corner of the page as I watched pass and page 50 come into view. I quickly rubbed my eyes, looked at the clock once more. It was approaching 845 pm and I put The Thrill of the Chase down.

I stood up, stretched and I seen Smokie, the 22-pound cat sitting in the house at the

intersection of the stairs and the entryway into my bedroom. I verbally greeted Smokie and I asked him if he wanted a late night kitty-cat snack. He swished his tail once, got up on the desk and I gave him a ration of his favorite treats. He looked at me as if to say “that hit the spot” and scampered off to find his water fountain.

Smokie relaxing after a third of a mile walk around the neighborhood. Yes we walk alot. LOL.
Smokie relaxing after a third of a mile walk around the neighborhood. Yes we walk alot. He is in his small dog harness but sleeps in a large dog bed.





I picked up the Thrill of the Chase and like an after thought I said to Smokie, if he wanted to get up on the bed and sleep he was welcome. I left the door open just a crack. I got situated in bed and started reading the Thrill of the Chase once more. The heavy blankets and comfortable pillows, along with the ease of reading the book told me, if I wanted to effectively retain any of this memoir, it was be best to do so with a refreshed brain and body. I quickly looked at the unarmed alarm clock and it was past 1030pm. OK fine, let me get some rest and see where Saturday will take me.

My eyes opened to a passing sound which was quickly fading. I instantly tried to replay the obnoxious sound back into my head to see if it merited a higher degree of concern. Apparently it did not and I sighed, looked at the alarm clock once more and a quick look toward the windows confirmed that it was still way before sunrise – it was 0130 (130 am). I sat up, attempted to strategically place my soft fluffy pillows in a manner that would quickly induce me back into the slumber I was enjoying. Nope.

The immediate draw of the hibernation station has lost its immediate grip on me for now.  I sighed, yawned and turned on the reading light. I looked over to the ever diligent, now unarmed alarm clock, making sure it was sure it wasn’t miscalculating the time, and it was pretty much correct. I let my functions come back on line knowing that if I did so, I’d have a small battle on my hands to fall fast asleep before the bright light in the sky rises and the people and their over affectionate noise making distractions may once again interrupt my sleep pattern.

I picked up The Thrill of the Chase once more and took note of where the Collected Works book marker was. I got situated comfortably in bed and I decided to recommence reading the memoir.  I took a quick break about 245 am and noticed that Smokie did in fact quietly clamber up on the bed and lay in a tight ball on his new blanket he received for Christmas past. I looked at the page at the end of the chapter I just finished and I was on page 103. The chapter My War for me was well written, though I must admit, it was a bit on the long side. Since I didn’t have much sleep, I think the length of this chapter took its toll on my ability to stay up longer and finish The Thrill of the Chase in a short period of time. I quickly reminded myself that I had no time limit on when I was to complete the first reading of the book, so I placed it on the night stand.

I felt Smokie adjusting himself on his assigned area on the bed, and I did a double take of him. He was in the same spot, only he shifted his rotation around. All I seen was a body, a camouflaged head which was almost upside down, and a partially open eyeball peering at my overabundance of energy at nearly 3 am which partially disturbed his sleep. I greeted Smokie a good night and shut off the reading light once again.

I awoke to another obnoxious noise. This time the playback quality was a little better. It sounded like some one knocking on the door. So I put my early morning garb on my feet and head to the door. It was some guy walking away. I peered my head out the door to hear, “I’m sorry, I just seen your no soliciting sign, I work for a soda company and I was wondering if you’re interested in some product?”. He is saying this as he heads out of the driveway and 40 feet down the road. As he expected, I quickly shook my head as a gesture of feeling sorry for what just occurred and he took that action as a no and kept moving.

I decided to look up at the clock in the living room and it reported that it was nearly 1030 am. I decided to break open a box of warm cereal and make a pot of coffee. I head down stairs to the office and place The Thrill of the Chase in the middle of the desk, surrounded by the requirements of life around it. As I ate, I slowly read the memoir until I came to the last page.

Since I have been “cheating”, trying to decipher the poem prior to the books arrival, and I hit the last word within The Thrill of the Chase, my immediate reaction was nothing. Nothing immediately stood out that was a blockbuster thought or idea. I weighed that feeling and chalked it up to trying to read the book in the evening hours, without much rest. Honestly, I think that helped some, since the mind likes to analyze things on different scales, sometimes that dormant thought can come to life and help marry all of this into something incredible.

Now as I sit here I am going to deviate from Forrest Fenn’s plan just a tad. I finished up breakfast and I am going to visit my notes prior to the memoirs’ arrival and see if I can meld the two together before I carry on and read the poem and then delve into the memoir once more.

Now the Real, Thrill of the Chase begins !

Now, the FUN begins. Yeah this is fun, it’s not stressful, aggravating, complex or unfathomable. I am not willing to give away my thought process behind all of this because I want a shot at solving this prior to telling people what my true thoughts are about the winning solve. I have two others that will assist me in this quest, and I have not offered my opinion to them, yet. I will let them form their own opinions and potential solves, and if they look close we can continue to brainstorm, work together as a Team and finish what we started.

It may be a period of time, undetermined, that I will post again. I want to stay connected with The Thrill of the Chase memoir, the poem and my thoughts as one, to see how far we can get before we go boots on the ground, where ever that may lead us. Good luck in The Thrill of the Chase.


My outlook on The Thrill of the Chase

Forrest Fenn's Treasure Chest and the Epic loot we will be searching for Starting in January 2019.

I think I have a pretty decent head on my shoulders. I think I am smart and I have lived a life where I am semi-comfortable with the way things are. When I decided to get off my keister and go overseas to Europe on my own accord, traveling solo to experience the cultures, sights, people and places I realized that I want to do this traveling thing again some time – soon.

I have had a few accidental run-in’s with the Forrest Fenn and the treasure chest over the past nine years and I have told myself – like many others have in the past – that this is something I can attempt to do with an open mind. There are other posts on here that explain the “accidental run in’s” with Forrest Fenn.

Got Analytics?

Listen, I working in a high paced field, I have to analyze a lot of information in a relatively short time. So, this should come second nature to me. EXCEPT, The Thrill of the Chase doesn’t offer a clear cut methodical approach to an end. I don’t have the assistance of the tools we use on a daily basis and the online websites which can back up the potential prognosis of what I have in front of me. Analytics are fun, it chases down something in the end, most of the time.

So, The Thrill of the Chase will offer scant information at first and hopefully I will be able to see if I can follow that to an end. Time will tell.

I am a PC gamer as well as one that likes to travel. I was in the US Navy for 22 years and I seen many an overseas port. Back then, my only thought ( I don’t like using wishes) was that it could be a much better experience if I didn’t have a time restriction or military rules set by the ship that I had to follow.

Here is my YouTube Channel:

Mission Incredible YouTube Channel

Life can come not quite as desired, or expected.

Having raised three children by myself. My wife passed due to an overly aggressive cervical cancer. Let’s just say it is water under the bridge. But, it did put a damper on my ability to think too far forward as the daily routine would change in a moments notice. Now that most of the flock has departed and the abode is occupied by only a few, I have no ties holding me back – except the job I currently hold ( which offers a decent amount of vacation time). Once I decide to retire, I want to be able to travel and see whatever sights I can.  Currently, I am planning on getting the more expensive ones out of the way while I am still employed, and then the other travel opportunities in the bucket list are more manageable.

Here is the link to my Valencia Spain Trip to include a lot of the Museums I walked to. 

The What If’s of treasure hunting 

I’d like to kick back and relax and indulge in a small fortune, enough to spread the wealth as needed and some as desired. I am an occasional sucker to help  an authentic hand in need that I personally get to choose to do so. I am one of those few that has the will not to be broken, tough skinned, knowledgeable, focused only to the point where I can decide if the action should be continued or severed as the best course of action. It’s all about the what if’s in any situation, that is how decisions are made.

A Natural in Nature, so to speak

I recently stumbled upon a song that stuck in my brain. It kinda mimics the views I have on life, though I am more on the thoughtful and giving side of the world than the cold hearted or eventually rich side of the house. We can change that rich option, feel free to donate me a large wad of legimate cash, anytime.

It’s a song by the Imagine Dragons called Natural.

Here is the song…… Though the video doesn’t even come close to my mindset – I will place a video of my perception of this song AFTER I have traveled out west in the late summer of 2019.  It will be placed on my YouTube Channel, documented above.

Here are the lyrics;

Forrest Fenn’s treasure, and the greed that consumes many.

Through Unrelentless Greed comes a War

Two people can keep a secret if one of them is dead – A line used by Forrest Fenn. 

Woooooo…. There has been much negativity towards each other as the searchers for Forrest Fenn’s treasure are losing grips with the simplicity of the hunt.  When I visit forums, blogs and videos, I am 100% certain that I am not going to get any useful information from their opinions. I only look at the perception, the thought process and reasoning behind the potential solve and as of yet, there is not one person that I have read that keeps on track. They are all over the place with multiple partial solves.

Through Unrelentless Greed – War ensues.

Through Unrelentless Greed comes a War
Through Unrelentless Greed comes a War.

Some get so frustrated that they do post some of their solve to another when they are either fed up with being poked and prodded trying to defend their partially disclosed solve that at the moment of truth, they reveal a small piece of their solve to feed the rabid bludgeoner. Then, both will sit back and lay off the offensive strike – for the moment. Blood boils and the need to counter once again ensues.  Others will simply antagonize someone with little quips of useless and often irrelevant information. Why don’t you help each other? Two words sum it up. Untrusted and Greed.

And one wonders why the treasure hunters are unwilling to provide each other with any sort of tangible information, or to set a searcher back on track when their mind has wandered amuck.

Your solution is not the best,                                                          Unless you stand there with the chest.

Some say, with an evil tongue, this is the year when Forrest Fenn’s treasure chest will finally be found. Some claim that the summer of June 2019, the chest will be recovered. It’s another axiom throwing event which only allows the person who speaks with that vile tongue, a fictitious deadline in order to have an advantage in a short fused conversation. If I had the puzzle solved to this cryptic poem, I wouldn’t wait – and I surely would not offer anyone the privilege of immediately knowing that it was found or how I exactly solved the poem……..Why? It’s due to the actions of many that taint the true intent of Forrest Fenn’s treasure. It’s meant to get people outside and enjoy life. Many do simply the opposite and become frustrated and unable to see the poem for what it is worth. They sit in their abode, frustrated and eager to vent out some of their exasperation to someone who is willing to fire back comments until the frustration level continues to make them think illogically.

Then they become unglued, frustrated to the point of flushing any sort of partnership or camaraderie. The person who antagonizes and the person who is willing to go to extreme lengths are both guilty. There is no battle of wits there, though I am yet to find a decent reference for the use of “Battle of the Nitwits”. It’s extremely easy for some one to hide behind a screen name, eventually confide in some one and offer a little bit of information on a subject.

Think about Forrest Fenn’s Treasure, then look in the mirror while you can and ask yourself…….

People have varied end moves, or motives. Some will stick with it to the end, some will stick to it until the resource is depleted and some will run to the point of the quest first and claim anything as their own.

I for one am not greedy – I have come to the point in my life that I understand what it takes to live comfortably over many years. I don’t need to change my lifestyle when I find that box – That box didn’t make me successful throughout my life – I selected most of the directions when it came to forks in the road, and I will continue to do so.

If you’re so obsessed about finding Forrest Fenn’s treasure one can paint a vision of you and see your true colors. I have a gift; I can read people for what they truly are worth in seconds, in any situation. It is something that people like to hide in the tall recesses where a smattering of calcified materials lay along with some subjective information and deep dark thoughts, emotions and entrapped motives lay.

Forrest Fenn had to know that this would happen. There are rare breeds out there that are searching for this treasure. Those are the ones that could honestly care less about the treasure and want to spend some quality time together. They want to think together, laugh together, brainstorm together. travel together and be right, wrong and help each other. That less than one percent of the human race can either ignore this quest for Forrest Fenn’s treasure as they are too enlightened to know the potential pitfalls of what this encounter may do to their nearly perfect world.

Many will never work together as long as greed has a say in the matter.

Greed can make a person selfish, pompous, mysterious and worse. It’s going to change the average person into an obsessive psychological monster. It’s going to eat at a persons’ moral framework, and potentially change the roots of what they normally are into something that could be highly undesired and unexpected.

So, in the end of this thread, I’d like to drive home the need to incorporate the 5 second rule.  I for one am NOT going to offer any help to the masses that are currently in the search since they aren’t willing to work with each other. I am not willing to post any comments on YouTube spammers who is using the efforts of many to produce lackluster videos of which many, end at a sixteen second mark, or looking for ego-testical hits and a potential TADA moment that should never happen. They spew out gibber and irrational thinking to anyone that is willing to listen to it. Those people should be one and done, Thumbs down.

So for those of you that need a sanity check, have a look at the only truly related meaning when it comes to trying to find Forrest Fenn’s treasure.

Waffle House waitresses work for hard earned tips !~

Waffle House offers good food, fast. But it comes with a price - it's a stressful environment at times.

Waffle House Waitresses and Waiter jobs are stressful and fast paced.

On a typical weekend, I arrive at a local Waffle House about 10am in the morning. It is always hit or miss on how busy the location is. I quickly scan the parking lot to see how many cars are there as I pull in. I park, get inside and look for my favorite waitress. I spot her, as she drops off a load of dishes near the dishwasher, tells the staff that those are her dishes. She then washes her hands, she goes around to the silverware area and grabs napkins, silverware and prepares a booth for another party. She smiles, introduces herself, and takes their drink order.  She takes a deep breath, and is off to the races again.

Take a moment to see what a Waffle House Waitress and Waiter does to make you happy.

If you have been to a Waffle House, one day make it a point to see at what length the waitresses and waiters have to go through during your short stay. Most arrive close to 7am and their scheduled departure is near 2pm, but they are typically out the door closer to or past 3pm. Near the end of the scheduled shift they have to clean the place up and tally up their ticket books which is a tedious project in itself. But that is not all they do…..

Typically they clean off the tables for the next guest, they each are responsible for their own dishes. They have to wait in line and call their orders in to the cooks. They bring you your drinks and take your order. They have to refill the orange juice containers when needed, refill ice, scrub pre-wash and then run the dishes through a dishwasher.  They have to wash any plates that the cooks use, including the egg pans. The trash cans don’t empty themselves out, so that is one more task that is done. They have to take orders over the phone and have time to check people out and offer a smile and ask how their visit was. As the day grinds on at the Waffle House, hopefully the tips they earn are sufficient for the day.

As additional people enter and leave, the chaotic cycle happens over and over again. In some of the Waffle Houses I have eaten at, they have this down to a fine science. Other locations, it seems they have less enthusiasm as the tips aren’t the greatest and the potential thought process is that why hurry when the reward for stellar performance is not going to be there in the end.

The waitresses and waiters won’t mention a thing about how much they get paid per hour. Its against the Waffle House policy. But if you are like me, you can find out anything by typing about it in your favorite search engine.

What DO Waffle House Waitresses and Waiters make per hour? Thinking about an entry level job, and have plenty of energy, with a flexible schedule?  How pleasing is this job ? Remember, this depends on the area in which they are employed. Some locations are more generous and managed differently than others in my opinion.

My Point is….. Tip the hard working Waitresses and Waiters at Waffle House !

In MY opinion, the ladies that I know that work at different Waffle Houses as Waitresses are underpaid, over worked and not tipped well. Like I said above, take that moment to pay attention how much activity these waitresses and waiters do in order to get a few extra dollars in tips. Tips are the livelihood of their job. Show the Waffle House waitresses and waiters some love and offer them a decent tip once in a while.


Still waiting on the Books……..

An update on the Collected Works Bookstore purchase of Forrest Fenn Books, The Thrill of the Chase and too far to walk.

Friday Morning, January 25th 2019, I wrote Dorothy, the owner at the Collected Works Bookstore and Coffee shop and inquired about my order of books. I emailed her and asked for an update to my order and I explained that I soon would be on travel. I also inquired about the change of policy after I had purchased the books and requested all of them be autographed. The policy has been changed to no more than two autographed copies of any book. Since the autographed editions are free, why not have an autographed version, as Mr. Fenn himself was kind enough to handle the book and add a signature.

Gift now when you can afford it. One day the ability to do so will not be there.

When I placed the book order, there was not any restrictions on the amount of autographed books that could be purchased. So, I requested that all be autographed. I wanted one copy each ( one of The Thrill of the Chase and too far to walk)  for my son, his girlfriend and myself. I planned on tucking away one autographed copy of The Thrill of the Chase for future use. Heck, I am the type of person that might just gift it away to a person that shows a strong honest passion about the adventure and simply cannot afford the book, but would be willing to help us with a solve. I have given many trinkets away in the past in the form of licensed MLB/NFL products to charities, such as We Promise Foundation, Edmarc Hospice for Children & Local Make a Wish office. In the case of the charities I am talking thousands of dollars. I don’t ask for much back in return, just that 100% of the proceeds from the item go to support the mission at hand. I also gift Steam purchased games for PC users.

Collected Works Bookstore and Coffee House IS a small business…

I have to remind myself that this bookstore is a small business and their tempo may not be as high strung as other places. The bookstore is something that has a limited number of employees and even more, a limited number of resources. But they have to realize that the bulk of the interest in these books have passed by. Add in the fact that The Thrill of the Chase copies were in stock, but the bookstore had to wait on the too tired to walk books to come in. Then, the bookstore has to set up an appointment with Mr. Fenn to come in and autograph these books. Mr. Fenn is no longer a spring chicken, and the ability to maneuver may be difficult at times. Finding an opportunity to either have him go to the bookstore to sign or, offer the bookstore to arrive at his house where he can sign books at his leisure would make more sense. Simply place a sticky on the appropriate page to make the opening of the book easier and an employee can either assist, or Mr. Fenn can complete this at his own pace, solo. Stack a handful in an acceptable area and make the books easy to take out of the boxes. leave the rest up to Forrest, with no deadlines.

His Autograph is worth something – kick it in to the Cancer Fund !

I honestly think that his autograph “means” something to the book owners. I think a nominal fee should be charged in the future for these autographs since the autograph sessions will become scarce as the calendar pages turn. Having collected autographs in my past, an average “Joe” can command between $20.00 to 40.00 on a book, and in my opinion, I think that is a pretty fair appraisal of Mr. Fenn’s autograph; heck it could even be more. In any event, the extra funds could quickly increase the Cancer Fund they have going. It will also deter the nefarious that want to take advantage of an autograph and gouge people even more, over pricing the books that they do on several third party websites. That’s just my two cents and I am sticking with it.

Hopefully I will get my seven books, all autographed as I desired. I will update this post when I get an update about the Forrest Fenn autographed books called The Thrill of the Chase and too far to walk. See my other posts for the official website to order the Forrest Fenn books directly from the Collected Works Bookstore and Coffee House.

so YOU say you found Forrest Fenn’s treasure…..

Is this Forrest Fenn's Bracelet? If so send it back to so we can plan a different vacation

I don”t know what is worse, a really long and boring solve on YouTube or a comment from some one that claims to have found Forrest Fenn’s treasure.

Soon the Search for Forrest Fenn’s treasure will commence ! Maybe. 

I placed an order for autographed versions of The Thrill of the Chase and too far to walk on January 3rd 2019. As of January 19th they have not been shipped. So, in the mean time, I simply visit a few resources to see if any of them have any useful information, and honestly, they do not. Ok, OK, maybe there is one. He ( a hint) supplies a few PDF’s (another hint) about Forrest Fenn’s ramblings. Are they worthy of a read? I don’t know, yet. Will they help me? Heck, I don’t know probably not. Most of what I deem semi-important I already had in text form. Its smaller in size and easier to read.

This is the way I look at things. If you have any questions about your own solve whatsoever, it becomes an inaccurate solve. More than likely it is not going to get you close enough to the blaze, let alone the correct area to look for Forrest Fenn’s epic treasure.

Partly potential and highly improbable (and long winded) Forrest Fenn treasure solves, hints and clues.

There are more than a handful of people that have come up with a potential solution on YouTube and want to post a video on it. Or, ven yet, they have solved a potential clue(less) tidbit and offer it over a 20+ minute video. I can tell in the first two minutes that it’s probably far fetched. Why do they need 20-plus minutes to convince the world that its a far fetched, overly twisted and improbable conclusion? They are long and extremely boring. Viewers if they choose to listen to the twisted thoughts of one or more attendees, will see that they will talk about anything. I look at these creators simply wanting YouTube hits, some self satisfaction that they might be a self inflicted star.  If they have a video length over 20 minutes, they are probably trying to hedge YouTube into coughing up some funds for the voluntary squatters believing that some where on the video a very important clue will be revealed.  You listen to one potential solve or a potential clue is solved and it makes no sense what so ever. The people in front of the camera seem to be nodding, but they too have no clue where this treasure is. IF they did, they wouldn’t be “hype-pathetically” guessing and smiling on camera waiting for the 26th minute to come so they can close out and post another nonsense production.

Forrest Fenn has giving out a pretty decent amount of hints over the years and people are just unable to comprehend what he is saying. One has to realize that not everything he says is a clue or a hint.  Personally I think he is pretty bold when he mentions a hint in a post or an email.

Forrest Fenn took his time and hid the treasure in an area where the stereotypical searcher is going to write off that potential area because it doesn’t fit their potential solve.  It simply can’t be there because…….. Because YOU think its not in your solve location. He wouldn’t dare to have hid it there…. Is probably one of the most illogical thoughts that can be produced. I think that Forrest probably has a huge smile on his face as he ponders how long its going to take some one to find this elusive treasure, that potentially is located beneath everyone’s nose.

Don’t be naive and believe that anyone out there is going to give you their best thoughts when it comes to figuring out Forrest Fenn’s poem, locations or even hints. Some may offer a little bit of information that may make sense, but what most may be after is someone ( a viewer like you or random poster) offering them a different view on an area that they may be stuck at. If you post an idea to them, they might see it in a different way, and either have more info than you do, or gives them ANOTHER reason to fire up the pathetic video machine once more.  That random comment may place them on the trail once again ( or not) and one step closer ( or not) to the winning solve. I have not found one decent resource that offers the identification of any of the clues, let alone all nine, nor a majority of head nodders agreeing that a particular phrase is definitely a hint that points to the poem and the clues.

Forrest must chuckle to himself a lot about this. He knew greed would take over and people aren’t willing to share anything, let alone their potential solve and even a heck NO to sharing a portion of a 42 pound treasure.  No clue about non-disclosure agreements, potential agreements about sharing of wealth contracts, brain (?) storming, planning, logical thinking in groups, or spreading the wealth of any type per se. OK, MAYBE a couple of photogarphs, as long as they don’t give anything away ! I simply shake my head. The hunt for Forrest Fenn’s treasure is going on at least its 9th year and zippo results.

Don’t get me wrong ( I maybe right, TBD). I have a logical plan. And should I decide to quit mid-stride and not go on an adventurous journey in search of epic loot, I might ( don’t hold your breath) share how I would approach this mind bending ordeal. No promises, because I DO need another vacation, and I want to visit some where in the USA vice an overseas location. Heck, If I can find the box of treasure, I can afford to go on vacation almost any time I want, and share the journey of travels on here as well as – you guessed it – on You Tube.

so YOU say you found Forrest Fenn’s treasure…..

Speaking of YouTube……To those that visit the YouTube channels and the forums claiming to have found the treasure chest, there is a simple solution. All you would have to do is mail Forrest Fenn his bracelet back to him anonymously. Being that potential problem solver, getting his current address should be a breeze. If not, you can always send it to a location he has visited (bookstore, museum or otherwise) and he or a surviving relative can then tell the world it’s officially time to put the books on the shelf and store the search gear. 

Wear some gloves to reduce the chance of leaving a precious finger print or fragment of DNA. Paranoid they are going to find you out by your hand writing or postmark? Simply print the information off the web, and slap that on a padded envelope.  I assume that you are NOT putting a return address on the package…….Buy some common stamps (US postage stamps that is ), place too much postage on the package. Use tap water to moisten the stamps, don’t lick them. After the package is sealed, making sure none of your DNA is included within the package, or under tape, get in a vehicle (with the package) and drive a pretty good distance away (maybe 1+ hours, more if you live in the boonies) from your location. Find a post office and drop the package holding Forrest Fenns bracelet in an outside mail box and then go home. Being that potential problem solver, getting his current address should be a breeze. If not, you can always send it to a location he has visited (bookstore, museum or otherwise) and he or a surviving relative can then tell the world it’s officially time to put the books on the shelf and store the search gear.

Then you can sit and bask in your glee that you indeed have produced to the world that some anonymous person has indeed found the elusive Forrest Fenn treasure and the world’s experts will shred every potential probable, improbable and other possibility of who had found the treasure and gawk at any question where the loot was hid and then found.  Ok, it’s time to come on back to reality.

Until then, I will read the books (when they get here) with an open mind (do I need a can opener for that? ) and plan a visit to the (currently unknown, but popular) location should I solve the first two clues within Forrest Fenn’s poem.

OK Forrest, add me to that chuckle line as well.

Where to Buy Forrest Fenn Books – The Thrill of the Chase

Where to buy Forrest Fenn’s book The Thrill of the Chase and his other books

This is THE place to buy Forrest Fenn publications. To me its far cheaper and I was told over the phone, even though it says they are not in stock, they always have them in stock.

ISBN: 9780967091785


Too Far To Walk (Hardcover)

ISBN: 9780967091792

To get order updates, call the Collected Works Bookstore and Coffee shop Monday through Friday and ask for the shipping team. They open after 10am  Mountain Time. The number is (505) – 988 – 4226.